Comments on Gunpowder Treason: 9MM FAILURES: BEHIND THE STORY

This is an old thread but I just had to add to the...

2012-01-24T09:40:39.791-05:00

This is an old thread but I just had to add to the failure stories. During the Korean war a North Korean soldier was shot 13 times with a 1911 45ACP before it stopped his advancement. A police officer in a shoot-out in a parking lot shot the robber 22 times with a .40S&W glock and the robber got in the car and tried to drive off with 21 hits.the officer shot him in the back of the head through the back window with the 22nd hit that stopped him and he still lived for another 5 minutes or so. A success story with a 9mm is an officer put down a man spraying bullets with an AK47 with his berretta 92 at 75 yds with his 2nd shot. With any handgun, shot placement is the key. If you can tack drive with a 9mm but can't hit the side of a barn with a 45 then 9mm is your better choice. If you can shoot well with a 45 then 45 is your choice. Whatever you can afford to practice with to keep proficient with will most likely be your better choice. For laughs .... the fairly new AR15 in 300AACblk caliber ( a .308 converged with the 5.56 case) would be better than any of them...LOL

Good post, right answer. Someone with the wrong t...

2009-11-29T23:04:33.199-05:00

Good post, right answer. Someone with the wrong tool in their hand, for whatever reason, could very well be a hazard to themselves and their loved ones.

well i kinda agree with the post above, and i kind...

2009-11-18T12:42:30.064-05:00

well i kinda agree with the post above, and i kinda dont, you see, basically any type of headshot, if the bullet goes in, your as good as dead, even if your not dead, the force of impact would cuase a head trauma, as well and severe damage to various parts of your brain, plus you would probably fall unconcious with the pain.

also the caliber does matter and isnt a myth, take it like this, if you shoot someone in the chest with a .38 and with a .45 the .45 will always do more damage( duh) becuase its larger, makes a larger hole, and its more likely to stay in the body since it will mushroom (unless its a peircing round) in which case, the bigger the hole, the better.

and if someone gets shot in the heart, they would NOT have 10-15 seconds left, dude to that fact, that with al;l the adrenaline pumping through you (becuase your in a gun fight) then your heart would beat more rapidly and once it stops, then your oxygen level would be cut short very quickly, id give that man 1-3 seconds AT MOST.

The true answer is that stopping power in handguns...

2008-07-12T19:14:00.000-04:00

The true answer is that stopping power in handguns are a myth!!! They simply just don't have the force; and yes, this includes the .45.

The only way to put down someone with a handgun is to hit the following targets:

1. The cranio-ocular cavity (about the size of a business card). This is the area on the head between the eyebrow line and the mustache line (Right between the eyes).
2. The Cervical Spine. From the base of the brain to the top of the collar bone (In the area of the Throat.)

Any other hit with any type of handgun caliber and a determined bad guy can keep going. Also, even with a direct hit to the heart, the bad guy has another 10 to 15 seconds of oxygen in his blood to fire back.

So when it comes to handguns, cartridges are much more similar than different in that shot placement is the key.

I own several pistols, both revolvers and semis, a...

2008-04-26T04:01:00.000-04:00

I own several pistols, both revolvers and semis, and I've been shooting and hunting for about 30 years. Having said that, I do believe that you struck the old nail directly on the head. Well said Sir.

Mac very interesting I'm british and tend to go wi...

2008-04-14T19:59:00.000-04:00

Mac very interesting I'm british and tend to go with the pros universally known as SAS They fire 9mm smgs and sig 9s. Comfort with any pistol is paramount. Firing a 10mm and fearful of recoil, just throw the pistol. Stopping power is in shot placement and shot placement is in comfort with the gun, and caliber. Shooting ranges with a variety of calibers is the place to start. Find the caliber with which you are comfortable firing then select pistol that feels good. (THEN PRACTICE)

I am no balistics expert, nor do I have that kind ...

2007-10-29T06:39:00.000-04:00

I am no balistics expert, nor do I have that kind of equipment, but I do have bowling pins, and I do have 9mm 115 grain, and 147 grain. Time to do my own experiment.

Very well said, Sir.

2007-07-15T14:10:00.000-04:00

Very well said, Sir.

Intresting read. Far from being an answer any noob...

2007-07-15T01:56:00.000-04:00

Intresting read. Far from being an answer any noob would want, but probably the closest to the truth if there is a definitive one.